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Sep 1, 2025

In this episode, Zach and Caleb discuss feedback and leadership with Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni.

Dr. Gavoni's Digital Business Card

Some of Dr. Gavoni’s books:

The Feedback Effect: Lead Smarter, Not Harder With the Science of Human Behavior

Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science

Positional Authority Ain't Leadership: Behavioral Science for Navigating Bull$hit, Optimizing Performance, and Avoiding A$$ Clownery

Deliberate Coaching: Optimizing Teaching and Learning Through Behavior Science: Education Edition

The Feedback Effect: Lead Smarter, Not Harder With the Science of Human Behavior

References:

  • Austin, J. (2000). Performance analysis and performance diagnostics. Handbook of applied behavior analysis, 321-349.
  • Bukszpan, A. R., Leaf, J. B., O'Brien, J. G., Lewis, A., Kristiansen, S., Lord, J., ... & Weiss, M. J. (2025). Utilizing the Teaching Interaction Procedure to Train Special Education Teachers in Behavioral Artistry. Behavioral Interventions, 40(3), e70017.
  • Green, D. R., Ferguson, J. L., Cihon, J. H., Torres, N., Leaf, R., McEachin, J., ... & Leaf, J. B. (2020). The teaching interaction procedure as a staff training tool. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 13(2), 421-433.